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a citizen of the world scrive:
25 Dicembre 2005 ore 23:40

Merry Christmas Mr. Bush !
(Click on the link for the postcard)

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Eric Lee scrive:
25 Dicembre 2005 ore 18:25

“for those of you who support this war… what about actual outcomes? over 30,000 perhaps 100,000 iraqi civilians killed. do you think the families of these people will forgive and forget? ”

If you’re going to cite numbers, why not cite them FULLY? What percentage of those Iraqi civillians were killed by IRAQI INSURGENTS…snipers and truck bombs murdering their own countrymen because..

…why?

…because they were standing in line to vote. That’s how badly the Iraqi people feel about this … they’re willing to risk that death, at the hands of those murderers, to exercise that right to vote!

While we’re at it, how about mentioning how many citizens of Iraq were killed by Hussein, himself? He threw an airstrike that targeted a city of his OWN PEOPLE with five different kinds of aerosol neurotoxin (and for those of you who still think “WMD means Nuke”, aerosol neurotoxins are also Weapons of Mass Destruction!)

He did this to a city of 80,000 just because a significant fraction of that population were Kurds…but since nerve gas can’t be targeted to Kurds alone, this shows that he frankly didn’t give a shit WHO he killed…as long as he killed a few Kurds along with them. (SEREN is bad enough…ever WATCH someone die of mustard gas? It’s a particularly hideous way to die…and Iraqi CHILDREN died that way at Hussein’s hands! The incidence of stillbirths and birth defects following that attack alone is STILL…TWENTY YEARS LATER…contributing to the death toll to be laid at Hussein’s door!

During his regime, particularly in the years following his unprovoked invasion of Kuwait (which he left a smoking ruin out of sheer “If I can’t have it, I’ll destroy it” childish spite!) Hussein actually killed more of his OWN people than have died in this entire war!

If you’re going to cite numbers…cite them all.

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spk scrive:
24 Dicembre 2005 ore 19:36

for those of you who support this war… what about actual outcomes? over 30,000 perhaps 100,000 iraqi civilians killed. do you think the families of these people will forgive and forget?

what is happening in iraq today? thanks to flawed rushed elections we now have a shiite government that is aligning itself with the religious nuts in iran - which is rejected by the minority sunni’s and likely to plunge the country further into a civil war and perhaps destabilized the entire region. the real winner out of this war was osama bin laden and ilk.

look deep people - these men died for a mistake (bush and his people admit it) now the politicians that sent them there are trying to cover their asses and bring them home while the iraqi people suffer.

shame on you who support this war - just like the liars and deniers who supported the war in vietnam that killed millions.

shame shame shame.

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Kasra Shokravi scrive:
24 Dicembre 2005 ore 03:05

tree number 977: Omead Razani, 19, RIP: August 27th, 2004

the first Iranian to be killed in Iraq, though I never met him, nor even knew his name until only recently, he was my brother, not biologically, but my ethnic brother, he was a brother and a son to all Iranians. He is my reason for hating this war, among others.

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fydel scrive:
22 Dicembre 2005 ore 16:06

Dear Calogero,
GW Bush pushed for war against Iraq for two reasons:
1- God told him.
2- Iraq owns a lot of american oil, underground.
This reasons are now somewhat official in the USA, and they did not fail to be true. So, your issue does not make sense.

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calogero scrive:
21 Dicembre 2005 ore 09:34

Surely a lot of US politicians, an also a lot of europe politicians made mistakes, belived in false information and said wrong things. But this war has been decided by mr GWBUSH and is staff, and it is unacceptable the obstinacy way mr GWB insist in defending this usless war when US troops have not found WMD yet. Remember that was the main (only?) reason to justify Iraq’s invasion. So, I think that logically, if the main reason you do something is false, your action must be a mistake, right?

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er mahico scrive:
20 Dicembre 2005 ore 21:29

Sono io che non so tradurre bene o questo t.scott ha detto una cazzata galattica?

Am i that can’t translate good or thid t.scott told one galactic bullshit?

c’est moi ca ne savoir traduire pas or t.scott a’ dise en galactic merd?

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t.scott scrive:
20 Dicembre 2005 ore 21:00

it is ironic that no country today would be here without fighting in some form of a war. And still, people live in them as if it were founded on peace alone.

Wake up people. Bush is not an enemy of peace, the liberals are.

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philo scrive:
20 Dicembre 2005 ore 20:08

Mr dubya’s lies? name the rest of the Misters

here… http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pol/110259577.html

actions: if bush lied about the WMDs - did President Clinton and his Administration lie when they gave as their justification for the massive bombing of Iraq in fear that Saddam had WMD - OPERATION DESERT FOX - http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/desert_fox/

(get some better material) that was a softball entry

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calogero scrive:
20 Dicembre 2005 ore 09:46

I would like to ask to an US soldier in Iraq: “ehi mate, have you found any kind of mass destruction weapons?” and “so, are you happy to be here to do the job based on Mr dubya’s lies?”

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Nemesis scrive:
19 Dicembre 2005 ore 01:45

“I thought we were discussing”

i didn’t thought we were discussing. You come out of nowhere, but welcome into the discussion.

“that rather depressing line of Christmas Trees in which you used the names of American soldiers killed in action for your thinly veiled condemnation of Bush.”

it’s nice someone remembers them names, don’t you think so?
I’m not willing to forgot each single one of them. If you’re a proud veteran as you boldly state you should be by my side on this. Otherwise the lincoln memorial is crap. Are you saying that?

“Rather sad that you didn’t have the chance to ask them, since they would probably have told you that they were proud to be doing the job they were doing…and if ASKED if you could use their names in this way, would likely have told you to go to Hell.”

I think this is only out-of-place rethoric, man. Really. I guess when someone dies, if there’s an afterlife, he must be deeply sad about leaving his relatives and friends forever: someone i don’t remember told (Napoleon maybe?) “those who say that war is glorious and dying in war is cool have NEVER BEEN TO WAR”.
And i’m quite sure, buddy, that for 1 “proud to be dead for the cause” marine there were 19 civilians called back to the army or there just to get food for their families. Not everyone is rambo, innit?

>A Proud Veteran!

Respect

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Eric Lee scrive:
18 Dicembre 2005 ore 22:13

I thought we were discussing that rather depressing line of Christmas Trees in which you used the names of American soldiers killed in action for your thinly veiled condemnation of Bush.

Rather sad that you didn’t have the chance to ask them, since they would probably have told you that they were proud to be doing the job they were doing…and if ASKED if you could use their names in this way, would likely have told you to go to Hell.

Signed

A Proud Veteran!

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er mahico scrive:
18 Dicembre 2005 ore 21:18

My best friend is in Philadelfhia he has a restaurant (he started being a waiter_cameriere si dice cosi?_ cleaner glass) he work about 20 hours at day… he’s quite rich…
Good capitalism,maybe.
but for one that get success 20 go to sleep on road… sad but true..
my friend was lucky and able.

have you got an answer for iraqi people bombed? a simply answer please.
my city never was bombed,Palermo.. (not by deutch too,incredible but true)
only one nation hit my beatiful city::::: United States of America….
thanks very much….

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Nemesis scrive:
18 Dicembre 2005 ore 20:36

zachary, i guess we are starting to understand each other and i’m really happy about that.
Nobody, NOBODY here thinks that people dying is fun, whoever they are and for whoever reason they die for. Really.
And NOBODY EVER meant to make fun of somebody who died for a REAL reason like growing up his family or feeding his spouse/husband, let alone Bushie’s fables. PERIOD.
I have lost two friends in a war (a different war, but all wars are the same) and i know what it means - the impotence and the fury and the incapability to give yourself an explanation when your friends are not there anymore. I don’t know if Swampy managed to convey this concept 100% in his movie, but i think that tentatively his message was trying to get along with the same accusation line to the US GOV as Michael Moore, or whoever-on-the-left you want to. And i’m pretty pretty sure lots of rightist-wannabees were ready to jump on the “f*ck swampthing” bandwagon just to raise consensus over their obvious-to-everyone misbehavings.
Off topic. Thanks for the appreciation, you’d love italian, it’s a rich and sweet language, and no, we don’t talk english SO well. But thanks anyway. :)

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calogero scrive:
18 Dicembre 2005 ore 20:09

the only thing I understand is that you, sean/helmut, do not understand the idea behind the swamp’s movie. It was not so difficult to get it.
you depressing me now

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zachary scrive:
18 Dicembre 2005 ore 20:09

If you say “these people died, and it’s Bush’s fault”, you have a point.
If you say “these people died, and it’s Bush’s fault, and it’s funny”, I think you detract from the message of tolerance and peace, and confuse your argument.

Some people will be offended no matter what you say, but if you show them respect it’s more likely they will listen to your point of view.

to all the Italians,your english is really impressive, wish I could speak your language half as well.

Peace out.

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swampthing scrive:
18 Dicembre 2005 ore 19:53

each site administrator has access to his site visitors. This is not called spying, this is called wordpress, you moron. It’s built-in and there’s nothing weird in that. And it’s a LITTLE BIT different from spying people’s phone calls.

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Nemesis scrive:
18 Dicembre 2005 ore 19:45

yeah, sure, whatever. Now buzz off.

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Sean L. scrive:
18 Dicembre 2005 ore 19:44

calogero : “w bush has just confessed he oredered to spy americans on telephone”

Ahhh…so if George Bush said he ordered spying in America against suspected terrrorists…then that means you can spy on people that write here, too? So you girls = George Bush.

Notice how you and your fake buddies´ whining never answers my questions but rather tries to attack me? Call me names, make fun of me…but you still like Americans!!!!
Isn´t that another one of your “radical” approaches to criticism - don´t answer it - attack the writer. The only freedom of speech you want is yours - everyone else that does not agree with you is an idiot.
(And so what if multiple names come from one IP address - it´s a computer in the university library - anyone can use it; probably hundreds use it each day. )
Have fun spying on the writers that post here - what do you do, turn the IP addresses over to some left-wing terror hit squad? Why are you spying on your writers?

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And what I am wondering about is why don´t you have a clever Flash animation lisitng the names of the over 30,000 Iraqis that were killed in the military action?
Because you could care less about them - you are just interested in being a clever internet cliche’ of the week.

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Tip: Start deleting/blocking my posts so no one can read them. That way you can prove how you believe in freedom of speech, too.

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calogero scrive:
18 Dicembre 2005 ore 19:01

sean/helmut you said

spying=terrorist/dictators/commie/faschists

but

w bush has just confessed he oredered to spy americans on telephone

sean/helmud be concentrated, call all your three neurons to co-operate among them and solve the syllogism above

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